Talk:Counties of Ireland
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Number of county boroughs in 1922?
[edit]I notice in the ‘Current Usage’ section, it states “4 county boroughs, Dublin, Cork, Galway, Limerick and Waterford”, listing five locations. Should the number be changed to “five”, or is one of the listed county boroughs a mistake? Possibly Galway doesn’t belong? In the ‘Counties Corporate’ section earlier on this page it states that Galway was “re-created in 1986”; while later in this same ‘Current Usage’ section it states “In 1985, Galway became a county borough”. (Also note the discrepancy in the given years.) - A Carbine Flash (talk) 08:12, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Counties
[edit]Since when were dun laoighre-rathdown, Fingal and South dublin all counties 2A01:B340:63:5402:519F:12BF:1191:3DDB (talk) 15:16, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Since 2001 (and they had been formed as electoral areas within Co. Dublin ahead of that, with South Dublin then named "Belgard"). There are the 26+6 traditional counties, but now in law, there are counties, cities and city-and-county combined entities. For the distinction, see the line:
As placenames, there is a distinction between the traditional counties, listed as "counties", and those created as local government areas, listed as "administrative counties".
- Of course County Dublin is still used as a description, but legally that area comprises 4 counties, the three you mention plus the "city of Dublin". To be fair, it was never as simple as "32 counties", and the article as a whole makes this clear. SeoR (talk) 00:22, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Derry not Londonderry
[edit]The County is derry. The citys name is disputed, not the county name. 37.228.227.82 (talk) 00:01, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sadly it is disputed. There was a settlement called Doire/Derry before the foundation of the City of Londonderry; there was not a County Derry before the foundation of County Londonderry (largely made up from the former County Coleraine with some extra bits added from neighbouring counties). And there is still a parliamentary constituency called East Londonderry which is largely in the east of the county. --2A00:23C6:148A:9B01:959F:B4F4:8267:4EFD (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- The county name isn't disputed. There's what some may wish it to be called, but it's not particularly disputed since County Londonderry was pretty much a whole cloth created county from County Coleraine and some bits of a couple of other counties as you mention. It's not like the city of Derry where there was a renaming performed directly. If the name of County Londonderry is to be disputed it should be for County Coleraine, not County Derry. Some people don't like the name, but that's not the same as it having any real dispute. Canterbury Tail talk 14:01, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Incorrect counties.
[edit]Dún Laoghaire–Ráth an Dúin and Fingal are NOT counties. 212.129.81.202 (talk) 10:58, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- See previous talkpage discussions. The law would disagree with you. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:25, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- And read the articles, please. You may or may not like it, or feel it was the right decision, etc., but the Oireachtas split County Dublin, and so for admin. and legal purposes, there are four local authorities, each of whose "functional area" is a county, in effect. Something even more radical was done long ago in Northern Ireland. Now, Wikipedia does recognise that there are still the 32 traditional counties, not least in people's minds and the structures of some organisations, as do the Irish and UK (and other) authorities in various ways, and on many articles you may see mention of both the latest administrative county arrangement and the historical county - but this does not take away from the fact that Fingal, DLR and South Dublin are all here until further notice... SeoR (talk) 11:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
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It’s Derry not londonderry 64.43.50.161 (talk) 19:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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template. Please read this page’s history, and the history of Ireland. No County Derry ever existed. The city was Doire / Derry, no question, but the county was founded as, and remained, Londonderry. There was also a County Coleraine. SeoR (talk) 20:21, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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